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ST. CHARLES, Mo. — Democrats claimed momentum Wednesday in their drive to enact the sweeping health care legislation sought by President Barack Obama, citing near agreement on crucial issues despite persistent Republican efforts to knock them offstride.

Obama himself, rallying support outside Washington for the second time this week, shouted to a crowd in Missouri, “The time for talk is over. It’s time to vote.”

At the Capitol, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said that after days of secretive talks, key Democrats were “pretty close” to accord on additional subsidies to help lower-income families purchase insurance, more aid for states under the Medicaid program for low-income Americans and additional help for seniors who face a coverage gap under current Medicare drug plans.

Pelosi, D-Calif., offered no details, and other officials cautioned that any final deal would hinge on cost estimates under preparation at the Congressional Budget Office.

Several officials in both houses also said Democrats were likely to impose a new payroll tax of as much as 2.9 percent on investment and dividend income earned by wealthy taxpayers. In addition, any legislation is expected to include a tax on high-cost insurance plans, along the lines of an agreement the White House negotiated late last year with organized labor.

At stake is the fate of Obama’s call to expand health care to some 30 million people who lack insurance and to ban insurance company practices such as denial of coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions. He also hopes to begin to reduce the rise in the cost of health care nationally.

Almost every American would be affected by the legislation, which would change the ways people receive and pay for health care, from the most routine checkup to the most expensive, lifesaving treatment.

Pelosi made her comments as Obama followed his campaign-reminiscent Pennsylvania trip of Monday with an appearance near St. Louis, pushing hard in the home stretch of the marathon battle to pass his signature domestic legislation.

“The time for talk is over. It’s time to vote. It’s time to vote. Tired of talking about it,” he told the crowd.

With his shirt sleeves rolled up, Obama denounced waste and inefficiency in the government’s health care system, and he announced that he had signed an executive order directing Cabinet secretaries and agency heads to intensify their use of private auditors to root out fraud.

House and Senate Democrats are working on a complex rescue mission for the health care legislation that appeared on the cusp of passage late last year, before Senate Republicans gained the strength to sustain a filibuster that could prevent final passage.

The current hope of the White House and Democratic leaders is for the House to approve the Senate-passed bill from late last year, despite serious objections to numerous provisions. Both houses would then pass a second bill immediately, making changes in the first measure before both could take effect. The second bill would be debated under rules that bar a filibuster, meaning it could clear by majority vote and without Democrats needing to amass a 60-vote supermajority that is beyond their reach.

Republicans have vowed to do everything they can to thwart the plan, and to go after Democratic supporters in next fall’s midterm elections. In the Senate, the GOP rank and file issued a letter pledging to strip out any provision that does not adhere scrupulously to complex rules.

In addition, GOP leaders sought to stoke the fears of House Democrats who worried that the Senate would not approve the second bill. Even so, Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., the second ranking Senate GOP leader, conceded, “We can’t delay a bill for months. We might delay it for a few hours.”

Congressional Democrats and the White House are grappling with other issues as they maneuver toward a final vote.

Pelosi and other House Democrats want to include Obama’s proposed overhaul of the nation’s student loan programs in the second, fix-it health care bill. The measure would require the Department of Education to originate all student assistance loans, effectively eliminating a role for banks and private lenders.

That idea has run into opposition from several Senate Democrats, and while officials said the controversy was debated at length in a closed-door meeting Tuesday night, no decision was made.

Additionally, some House Democrats are hoping to avoid a straightforward vote on the Senate-passed health care bill. Instead, they want a procedural vote that would simply declare the measure to have passed at the moment the Senate cleared the fix-it bill.

Rep. Louise Slaughter, D-N.Y., chairwoman of the House Rules Committee, said that approach was under discussion. But other officials said no decisions had been made.

To the annoyance of some Democrats, the White House is pushing for a vote by the House before Obama leaves on a foreign trip at the end of next week.

Several officials said one of the thorniest issues to be resolved in the House-Senate negotiations was a demand from a dozen states for additional funds under Medicaid.

These states, New York, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts among them, already provide coverage under the low-income program for the poor that other states do not but would be required to if the legislation passes. The 12 are concerned that they will effectively be penalized for having been more generous than the rest of the country.

The legislation that passed the Senate late last year included a new Medicare payroll tax of 2.3 percent on wages for upper-income Americans. The White House wants to extend the tax to dividends and interest, at a higher rate of 2.9 percent.

Much of the proceeds would offset changes in an excise tax the Senate approved on high-cost insurance plans. Responding to criticism from labor leaders, the White House agreed over the winter to scale it back significantly. Officials said the revised proposal would raise about $120 billion less over a decade than the measure the Senate passed.

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Associated Press writers Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Erica Werner and Alan Fram contributed to this story. Espo reported from Washington.

 




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13.
    Posted by Blue Harvest Records March 12, 2010
Sorry My Girl...I am not a "Lib Socialist" I am a Free thinking Libertarian. Maybe you "Freedom ain't Free" Inbreds should listen to what YOU are actually saying. Practice what you preach.

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    Posted by Mr. Destiny March 11, 2010
""BTW..whats so wrong with taxing medical equipment?""

And I suppose those taxes will never be passed on to you and me right??? Do you lib socialists ever think outside of the tax everything box?? Ever?? Listen to what you are saying.

11.
    Posted by Blue Harvest Records March 11, 2010
Fair Tax...all of your statistics sound like regurgitated rhetoric from propagandist like Limbaugh and Beck. If I were you I would REALLY question where you get your facts.

BTW..whats so wrong with taxing medical equipment? Other businesses pay tax on their assets and inventory why should the medical industry be exempt? After all, they ARE a business and have proved (with their exorbitant prices) that they are not a philanthropic endeavor.

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    Posted by Fair Tax 1 March 11, 2010
Sorry for the personal attack, it was meant to be an attack on your kind that thinks only the insurance companies dictate what we pay for health insurance. Its just so easy for you folks to single out that industry when its just one part of the equation.


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    Posted by onesmallvoice March 11, 2010
Besides, I really don't think it's me that is sounding ignorant here. Personal attacks do not increase your credibility.

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    Posted by onesmallvoice March 11, 2010
Drug costs can be addressed by allowing reimportation.

Doctors can be addressed by a standardized pay rate contained in a public option.

There are many other ways to approach your concerns, all of which are opposed by the obstructionist "do nothings" in congress. Why were these problems not even addressed while we were under the thumb of conservatives for a decade. We see where the free market economy has gotten us as far as health costs are concerned. Time to regulate all the villians but, unfortunatly due to the adversarial nature of politics, it is a slow process that must be fragemented. One problem at a time has proved difficult enough.

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    Posted by Fair Tax 1 March 11, 2010
osv Do you have any understanding of medical costs? All along this stream there are profit points. Doctors, medical care providers, drug makers, pharmaceuticals, medical device makers and finally insurance companies. In all fairness Obama and followers like yourself should make all of these villians in the skyrocketing costs of medical care that make medical costs unaffordable. Changing only one of these variables is NOT going to make healthcare AFFORDABLE. Some democrats in congress are even saying the bill falls way short of making healthcare affodable.

Go ahead osv and make yourself sound ignorant by blindly following the liberal mantra over how to make healthcare affordable. Myself and many many others know this bill is not going to do what needs done to make healthcare affordable.

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    Posted by onesmallvoice March 11, 2010
Fair Tax, how compassionate you are for the poor health insurance companies having to struggle along on just a few billion dollars a year. Now if you could just extend that compassion to the working poor and lower middle class (just about all that's left of the middle class) who are unable to afford those health insurance rates that I'm sure everyone but me finds such a bargain.

Nothing wrong with fair profits. Lots wrong with gouging the American people on their health insurance rates.

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    Posted by Fair Tax 1 March 11, 2010
Ah osv, the record profits. Profits are bad, investors should just give their money away in return for nothing.

Anyhow, those record profits were affected by a large dollar one time transaction. Lets give the whole side of the story osv.

Overall the insurance industry has an overall profit percentage of 2% which ranks 38 out all industries. Oh and those profits in 2008 would have only paid for 1.43 days of all the medical costs.

You all are barking up the wrong tree on this one.

4.
    Posted by Blue Harvest Records March 11, 2010
Yeah, they (republican representatives) are bought and paid for...Money is the only language that they speak.

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